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    You’re not piloting a bone mech, you are it.

    It feels like you’re behind your face looking out into the world but once you pay close attention and look for what’s looking you’ll discover there’s nothing there. There’s no “you” in a sense that there’s someone behind the wheel. There’s just consciousness. It feels like something to be. A subjective experience.

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          ‘Look for what’s looking’ is something he often says in his daily meditation sessions on the Waking Up app, which famously frustrates people. ‘There’s just consciousness and its content’ is also a direct quote from him.

          Neither of these he probably came up with by himself, but that’s his way (and in my view, the best way) of saying it.

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            Oh, sure, I’m familiar with the logic; I’ve meditated for years. And this is one of Buddhism’s core revelations:

            There’s no “you” in a sense that there’s someone behind the wheel.

            It’s very true of course, regardless of who is saying it - Sam, the Buddha, or anyone else.

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      It makes us an ECOSYSTEM!

      We’re not really “human” we”re more like… … a planet.

      or a forest, at least (soil, mycelium, roots, microbes, ferns, shrubs, squirrels, trees, clouds, rain, rivers…)

      (imho)

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        This opinion is beautiful and I will now choose to follow it. It almost makes one feel a kinship with the eyelash mites.

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      Every death is just brain damage. Now that can be either caused by physical trauma or (more commonly) oxygen stops reaching the brain for one reason or another. Oh and I guess sometimes a virus or a tumor invades the brain and eats up most of it.

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        Oh and I guess sometimes a virus or a tumor invades the brain and eats up most of it.

        Rabies being the most common I think

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    I call my blood balloon stick mech The Vessel.

    The Vessel is fucked up, but the spirit piloting the mess is doing great.

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        Counterpoint

        1. Our present domination global culture is biased to place a higher value on brain vs. body function— see eg someone “declared ‘brain-dead’”… … or in a coma.

        2. People w damaged or missing body parts will say that they no longer feel like themselves

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        I dunno. Organic space suit implies that the nervous system could survive independently of it. But it can’t.

        You need to get blood to the brain, so you need a heart. That blood needs oxygen so you need lungs. You need some way of getting energy to these systems, so you need a digestive system, which starts at your lips and forms a frighteningly long tunnel that ends at your butt. Now you’re introducing weird shit to your blood beyond just oxygen so you need a few systems to keep the blood clean. Now you’ve got all kinds of different needs and so you have other orgasms to keep those organs alive and functioning. Oh and because your blood is also alive, it dies and you need a way to make more. Quite efficiently this is done in your bones. But for the sake of argument let’s say this is possible without the bones themselves.

        I’d say the space suit starts at the immune system, and ends at the skin, which is really an extension of the immune system but there’s muscle in there. You could, theoretically, survive without any muscle or skin, or even an immune system in a clean environment, as long as you had a way to obtain calories and Oxygen independently. Though going to the bathroom would be hard.

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        both of you PLEASE put a CW warning on that

        not everyone has huge screens so we tap it and then ::vomit::

        CW morbid human nervous system anatomy, decoupled from rest of body

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      both of you PLEASE put a CW warning on that

      not everyone has huge screens so we tap it and then ::vomit::

      CW morbid human nervous system anatomy, decoupled from rest of body

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    But where are you really? Behind your eyes? We become aware of sensations in the body but how can they be above or below us? The sensory data just is, there’s no place we receive it from, it just appears and then disappears. Any label we put on this is just a convenient conceptual overlay that attempts to make sense of it and give it meaning. There is no meaning, only emptiness.

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        Indeed. Sometimes we get injured and don’t notice it. Other times we feel pain and there is no injury. We’re attempting to make sense of experience by applying concepts to what we feel. It’s the reason why chronic pain management using drugs is unsustainable.

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    I mean. The motors are meat to. You would die without your skin but if you did not you could still move technically but the bones won’t do anything on their own.

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    What a terribly reductionist POV.

    A few antidotes:

    study and learn Somatic Experiencing. (Where in your body do you feel a given emotion ? Where is tension felt? where is relaxation felt? where is sadness felt? )

    study some real yoga (not stretching

    but actual yoga ie meditation breath-work soma practices )

    • The Lives of a Cell (1970s? 1980s? Lewis Carrol, iirc)

    • The Hidden Life of Trees (2016)

    • The Dawn of Everything : A New History of Humanity (D. Graeber and D. Wengrow)

    • Being Bodies

    • Somatic Experiencing

    • Sex At Dawn

    • The Story of B (Daniel Quinn)