• TheDarkKnight@lemmy.world
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      Why does it always have to be on the rest of society to take the highest road, offer all of the grace of community to those who actively participate, encourage and promote the destruction of our society?

      Ever notice that they immediately have to take the role of the victim and expect to be treated in a polite manner, then get mad when society doesn’t respond the way they want? Fucking exhausting.

      • Sentient Loom@sh.itjust.works
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        I’m glad you admit that you will not take the high road, and that you have no empathy or compassion. You are a sociopath and you enjoy making vulnerable people suffer.

        You would get along well with Tate.

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          Tolerance is not a value, it’s a mutual social contract.

          If these people are not willing to give it, they can’t expect to receive it when it’s convenient.

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            This is a callous, zero-sum, losing strategy.

            If somebody is in a position where Tate appeals to them, my criticism of Tate’s brainwashing combined with criticism of those who ridicule lonely people will be more influential than this meme’s ridicule of lonely people for being desperate enough to fall prey to brainwashing.

            These lonely people are trapped between two hostile forces. I am drawing attention to that.

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              We aren’t criticizing lonely people. Go take your strawman elsewhere.

              Incel/NEET/sigma/Redpill “culture” 100% deserves as much and as frequent derision as fucking possible. The only remotely positive thing these horrendous ideas perpetuate for their target audience is the “grind mindset” (which in itself is horrifying). The only reason the “grind mindset” is helpful in these situations is that it helps people stuck in this world get into the real world.

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                Ridiculing people susceptible to psychopaths actually drives those people to red pill bullshit. You’re doing Tate’s work for him.

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                  Again… since you are incapable of holding this though in your brain.

                  Ridiculing people and ad ideas are two… count them: one (1), two (2)… different things.

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                    1 year ago

                    Again…

                    This is the first time you said these things.

                    Ridiculing people and ad ideas are two… count them: one (1), two (2)… different things.

                    The meme mocks the people who can’t get a girlfriend. It’s right on the picture: “Why can’t I find a girlfriend starter pack.”

                    If it was mocking the ideas, or the grifters who perpetuate the ideas, it would say “grifter starter pack.” But it doesn’t say that.

                    It puts the effect before the cause so that it can mock weak people. It’s kicking lonely people when they’re down.

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        I’m not talking about the psychotic self-help grifters. I’m talking about the lonely young men they prey on. That’s also who the meme is ridiculing.

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          if you are dumb enough to be bigoted out of ‘loneliness’ then I don’t think I care too much. being an asshole and being sexist and transphobic are not the same.

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              I’m fully aware of the depths depression and other mental illnesses can take someone to. I understand hating people because your life sucks, I won’t understand people that resort to demeaning those already beneath them (in a socioeconomic sense, that is.)

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                The grift doesn’t lead with hate or demeaning people. The grift leads with answers and solutions to serious problems (albeit largely bullshit solutions), and then the hate is brought in later to isolate the recruited person and build in-group loyalty be defining an out-group.

                When bloodthirsty lunatics then start their attack on that high level by ridiculing the recruited person for showing interest in a cult whose only appearance to us is that they treat us like the out-group, but without offering any solutions or even humanity (just explicitly mocking them as lonely people), then you’re just solidifying the group dynamics that the grifters created.