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  • bioemerl@kbin.socialtoGeography@mander.xyzMakes sense
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    1 year ago

    We have literally beat nature on this one. Basically every advanced society’s first step into being an advanced society is building up a network of dams and reservoirs that control their rivers.

    This is not some hideous expensive failed project, this is one of the most successful enterprises that every society in the course of humankind has done.

    This is like saying that farming is a failure.


  • commissioning an artist from fiverr

    Not really. It’s still $5. This is a problem for two reasons. First is that no artist can make a living drawing art for $5 a pop, it’s just not sustainable and the only way for you to regularly do this is to take advantage of people who are learning.

    So you’re not going to get anything very good, and in the process you’re basically paying a human being with some minimum wage to do work for you.

    we would let many more companies get away with not paying artists for every piece of art available in a board/card game

    Well yeah, that’s the point. Art becomes free, easily accessed, and more widely spread. a big company right now is going to say what, a few percent of their budget?

    But small studios? Little groups? People without a large budget? All of a sudden they are able to create works that are competitive with these former large studios because they don’t have to hire an artist anymore. An independent creator can now do more than they ever had, and that makes them more competitive with the big studios.

    This isn’t the room for the big companies because they don’t have to pay the artist anymore. It’s actually a massive loss, because the more the barrier to entry goes down the worse off they are.

    And at the end of the day artists aren’t entitled to my money.

    we would let many more companies get away with not paying artists for every piece of art available in a board/card game

    Without a question we would. I would absolutely love to take my current library of music and feed it to an AI and say make me more stuff I like and have a constant stream of brand new music instead of listening to the same 200 or 300 songs that I’ve downloaded over the years.


  • bioemerl@kbin.socialtoGeography@mander.xyzMakes sense
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    1 year ago

    Both.

    Wetlands aren’t built to protect human life, they will still enable floods to happen regularly. You can build human infrastructure up to the point that a flood is either impossible or next to impossible.

    Also dams and other water maintenance infrastructure is critical to ensuring that we don’t run out of water in times of drought which is going to be more and more and more important as time goes on especially in the west as global warming dries it up

    But at the end of the day weekends biodiversity is important, the fact that they act as carbon sinks is important, and they should still be preserved.


  • bioemerl@kbin.socialtoGeography@mander.xyzMakes sense
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    1 year ago

    As far as I’m aware we largely control floods using dams and reservoirs and those systems work extraordinarily well. Wetlands are awesome, there are a source of biodiversity and should be preserved.

    However, we have way more effective ways to prevent floods. Wetlands cannot beat human construction in terms of protecting lives from flooding.


  • will become scarce and likely only for the rich to enjoy

    Look at the other side of the coin, every single person on the planet is going to have instant access to an artist in their pocket, a little machine that they can give an instruction to and get a workable piece of art out of.

    That is something that only the rich have access to right now, enable creative expression beyond our wildest imagination for all of the people who don’t have 5 to 10 years of their life to dedicate to learning art.

    You looking at the negative, a relatively small negative, and totally ignoring the positive side of this coin which is going to change the face of human creativity as we know it.

    It’s like being angry that only rich people are going to have bands playing in their restaurants because the poor people will be using records. Sure, but we quite enjoy having prerecorded music nowadays and we would never give that up in exchange for live artists.

    The same principle applies, our lives will be improved by this and as long as that’s the case it’s a good thing, even if it means change.

    From my perspective you’re fighting to keep this sort of self-expression in the hands of the few instead of the hands of the many. Your practicing elitism and pretending in the process that you’re fighting for the common person, but the common person will benefit more from widely accessible and easy to use tools than the rich will.

    i dont see why they would share it freely anymore

    Because humans like to express themselves and share that expression as widely as they can for no other reason than the active sharing and having their works seen by many.

    The most pure and durable Art is Art as a hobby. Art as a form of self-expression?

    this assumes that genAI models can improve without any new input

    They can. Or at least, you can use things like human rating systems to guide an AI to produce outputs that people enjoy and train it that way instead of using raw works of art.

    As a rule, if humans can do it, AI can do it too. It’s only a matter of figuring out how.



  • this assumes that there will still be human produced art to train on to improve the genAI model when there isnt any incentive for humans to learn to make art when it can be used for training

    Fears like this never pan out. People don’t stop doing things just because of AI existing, and we still have people doing things like making vinyl records even though CDs exist or whatever, or taking old-fashioned photographs.

    Artists are going to still exist and they’re going to still be drawing art and they’re going to continue to share it. It may take a chunk out of the number of people who want to learn art, but that’s life and the people training these AI will adapt to it.

    And even if they somehow totally disappear, people will find plenty of new and exciting ways to continue to push the boundaries of what AI can do, because at that point being able to do that will be what gives you a competitive advantage in the world.

    OpenAI’s Terms of Use

    Open AI is a shitty unethical company. Never use them as a litmus test.

    And unfortunately despite what is right or wrong, lawsuits still managed to determine how behavior happens in our modern system, and groups like the MAFIAA (the music and film industry association of America) are happily willing to abuse the law to get their way so that they can make as much money as possible as well.


  • This is the beginning of the end friend.

    People who use AI will create a better cheaper product and at the end of the day its use as a new technology is justified. You’ll be clinging to an ever smaller raft and eventually have to abandon your ideals.

    And at the end of the day art is not stolen when used to train a machine. Copyright itself is an artificial legal construct, and it’s the right to redistribute, not the right to learn from art. You can’t invent rights out of thin air and get any when they’re broken







  • bioemerl@kbin.socialtoAsklemmy@lemmy.ml*Permanently Deleted*
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    1 year ago

    And that is another reason why you can’t have unmoderated social media. Some things are simply not allowed, for better.

    I’ve seen this a million times. Your little “for better” will almost certainly morph into including things you don’t like given time.

    You construct a strawman of the worst cases and then whittle away and lower the bar until there is no free speech not only in absolutes, but also in practice where people’s ability to share and discuss honest opinions are also shut down.

    A website that prompts free speech will do so in principal, not in absolutes. Seeking to preserve as much back as forth discussion as possible and reluctantly moderating where it’s necessary.

    Posts like yours are justifications in opposition of that sort of practical free speech, disguised as reasonable by associating free speech with stuff like leaking confidential information.






  • If all you do is take without contributing you’re literally worthless to the platform any every other system you join. Your life will be a series of jumping to the next free platform that eventually crumbles to nothing.

    Don’t want ads? Pay for premium. Want no ads and no payment? Why should anyone worry about your views? Your existence and use of a product then is a liability and not an asset

    We’ve been spoiled hard by free money in the tech space. It’s going to bite and there won’t be a place to run eventually except community spaces like this that will never quite be sustainable long term.