NuraShiny [any]

Yes, please apply the logic of stealing form large multi-national corporations to individual artists. Sterling logic.

I know why my boss makes more money then me. Because he is my enemy in a class war.

If any of these AI models draws art that is slightly too close to looking like Mickey Mouse the Disney corporation is sharpening the lawyer axe. I wonder why. But sharing is caring, right? Why would they do that?

Oh right because they want to decide what their intellectual property is used for. A right that wasn’t afforded to basically every single artist whose stuff was used to train these models. These artists often rely directly on selling their art for their daily survival. Maybe they would have liked some money to sell their art for this purpose? Maybe they didn’t want to sell it at all? Doesn’t matter, they weren’t asked. If you don’t have an army of lawyers, the corporations will do as they like. Which is why Disney is save, while normal artists are fucked and weren’t even asked in what hole they would like it before they were.

So shut the fuck up about sharing is caring, it’s easy to say that if you are the one taking advantage. I don’t know what field you work in, but I hope you lose your job to a robot that they trained on recordings of your work. You can tell me then how good it feels to share your skills.

These datasets do not exist, you got that right.

I highly doubt there is much AI deep learning needed to keep a robot arms PIDs accurate. That seems like something a regular old algorithm can do.

Oh right, we live under communism, where everyone’s needs are cared for. My bad

Oh wait, we aren’t and you are just a shithead who, once again, wants to tell me that stealing from other workers is good.

Sorry to hurt your fefes, but I don’t like theft and that is what AI content ALL is. How does it “know” how to program? Code stolen form humans. How does it speak? Words stolen from humans. How does it draw? Art stolen from humans.

Until this shit stops being built on a mountain of stolen data and stolen livelihoods, the argument is over. I don’t care if you like stealing money from artists so that you can pretend you had any creative input into an AIs art output. You’re stealing the work of normal people and think it’s okay because it was already stolen once before by the billionaires who are now selling it to you.

Since I don’t feel like arguing, I will grant you that you are correct in what you say AI can do. I am not really but whatever, say it can:

How will these reasonable AI tools emerge out of this under capitalism? And how is it not all still just theft with extra steps that is imoral to use?

Wow, great, the AI is here to defend itself. Working about as well as you’d think.

Disagree. The technology will never yield AGI as all it does is remix a huge field of data without even knowing what that data functionally says.

All it can do now and ever will do is destroy the environment by using oodles of energy, just so some fucker can generate a boring big titty goth pinup with weird hands and weirder feet. Feeding it exponentially more energy will do what? Reduce the amount of fingers and the foot weirdness? Great. That is so worth squandering our dwindling resources to.

Definitely the bravest people we have. Fyling Boeing… wow.

I can’t wait for Ubisoft to die. Out of the big ones, they seem the most likely to eat shit in the near-ish future.

An entirely fair comparison. There is no way any of the people responsible should be thrown into a ravine and shot if they somehow climb back up. Absolutely none. Very fair and balanced. Yes.

The Bocchi the Rock anime vs the Manga. The Manga is by no menas bad, but it is a 4 panel gag affair which has very little of the dynamism and weird jokes of the anime. I really want them to make more of it.

“This pit full of nazis…”

slaps clipboard

"It’s got nazis in it!! WhodathunkitamIrite?!?!

Buncha stinky tankies is what they are. Yes sir!

War becoming cheaper to wage as these machines become obsolete is good news for the Proletariat.

“The thing we made up and that never worked to help people…is failing! OOOOH NOOOOO!”

Is it better then nothing? Yes. Is it free, fair and unbiased? Hahaha fuck no.

As someone from a country that has this (Germany): It’s not unbiased, because it’s financed by the state and dependent upon the parties in power for it’s continued existence. In Germany that means being beholden to a bunch of neolib and conservative parties. And obviously these libs and conservatives only know how eat hot chip, lie and privatize everything, meaning state media receives a pittance of money and politicians still complain about that being too much.

I’d guess it’s because of the automotive union strikes that are going on in the US right now?

Session zero is your friend.

Personally I am of the opinion that some party rivalry is good. You stole that on your own? It’s yours, sure. It’s not real stuff after all. Who cares?!

But if you are obviously just taking shit in full view of everyone, in a hostile location, with no intention to share…well now that’s a dick move and won’t be tolerated. Still a good RPing opportunity. I have actually told people before: “my character needs to learn this lesson so please teach it to them”, before doing stuff like this. With the understanding in place, it’s a cool RP opportunity.

This has been an M.O. of mine for years in RPGs and it’s always very fun. If the nice and helpful person suddenly goes serious and blasts a fool without hesitation, people take way way more notice then if the brooding loner or righteous paladin do it.

I find this more fun in systems like Shadowrun where I can be like ‘This mag is alternatively loaded with Exex and APDS ammo and it’s for the big emergencies that sometimes happen’. Like, you might have 6 different mags with different ammo in that game and use them all, depending on what situations come up.

I really like Fabula Ultimas take on this too: Basic consumables like arrows aren’t limited or tracked, but you have inventory points that inform how many potions or other situation-changing items you can produce out of your bag of tricks, before you need to hit a town to restock. And then they have some abilities/classes you can pick give you more of these points, refill these points in combat or during travel, or key off of these points to do other things related to crafting and item use. Really really good.