Without getting too /r/atheism, it is funny to see the lengths many Christian scholars will go to try and justify that line.

“Oh, well they were probably actually referring to this giant arch that might have once been translated as “the eye of the needle”, meaning that they were saying it’s really easy to get into heaven”

Like what the fuck? What do you guys think is the point of the passage then?

And these aren’t like yokels and grifters. They’re like PhDs in Christian Theology. The religion at a point is just almost entirely concerned with making up translations and it literally always has been

No need to fight, I think both experiences are fine. I would just maintain that what might “appear” to be people invested in progressive, workers rights type issues, perhaps might not actually commit to those actions if it meant any meaningful sacrifice or change to themselves.

To break the parable a bit, imagine a lion that can somehow contort itself to feel like a housecat. A lot of people can touch it and say “hmm… feels like a nice little cat” - but someone who has had his arm chomped on by the lion knows there’s more beneath the surface

Eh. Just recently I’ve seen a lot of people talk down upon like… manual laborers, tradespeople, etc.

Without being too cynical, I think this website has a lot of people who like to ‘roleplay’ as being leftist, but then when you get into any specific policy points everyone suddenly goes “well I think people should be paid more… but obviously laborers shouldn’t make as much money as people like… oh, I don’t know… middle manager data analysts” and then you look at their history and they’re like “as a middle manager data analyst…”.

Its a very “communism is when I make more money and maybe some other people can make more too as long as it’s not as much as me” approach to progressivism

Well… it is as long as you assume that every person on the planet is a programmer.

When you’re not a programmer in middle management…? Things get a lot…. Murkier…

Hey if you’d ask the people on this site, higher positions always entitle themselves to higher wages.

We really gotta have some kind of actual initiative to restructure wages around actual work lol

I imagine he might not be the first person who did, the rest are just lost to history due to lack of observable / recorded results.

Earlier generations of people tended to have kind of a general, observation based understanding of that kind of thing where cause and effect was generally observed but people didn’t understand the why of it. People even very early on knew that if you caught a disease once you were less likely to catch it severely again, and they knew that if you quarantined a group of people the disease would eventually “die out”, but they had no real idea as to why in either case.

As a non-shitpost tid bit, this picture is depicting Edward Jenner, who made the first vaccine by inoculating people (first milkmaids, then anyone) against cowpox. Basically just took a scalpel and took some material from the sore on a cow with cowpox and scraped it on people.

Turned out pretty effective - and down the line we have vaccines

Beast, right?

C:TD discourse is so funny. Just apparently like the best game ever made hindered by the fact that no one outside the nerds that other nerds call nerds can be convinced to play as what is essentially a moody fairy navigating fairy politics

And then you have things like Beast: The Primordial, which by all accounts has been actually played less than like 100 times in history just because it immediately came out that it was basically one of the main author’s domination kink made into a game.