• OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml
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    1 year ago

    Where did you get those numbers from? Because over 26 million people died from the nazi invasion so the 12 million number is immediately false.

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      1 year ago

      Civilian casualties, kiddo. And remember, Stalin helped Hitler start WW2, and was his ally at the start of the war, so, he doesn’t get a pass on military deaths during the war. It’s not like the USSR gets a pass like countries like France do.

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        1 year ago

        Well soviet civilian casualties were something like 17 million people on their own, and 11 million people were killed in concentration camps, so…

        And remember, Stalin helped Hitler start WW2

        You do realize that the USSR signed a pact after the British and French rebuffed them and had already signed appeasement pacts with Germany right? (Including allowing them to size czech territory, which gave Germany much needed personnel, industry, and a fleet of really good early war tanks) And after they invaded Poland they dedicated resources to moving minorities out of the way of a nazi invasion they knew would come?

        It’s not like the USSR gets a pass like countries like France do.

        France literally signed pacts with nazis and did even worse appeasement than the Soviets did.

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          1 year ago

          Yes. I am aware that Stalin tried to get Allied approval to invade and annex Poland or turn it into a puppet state and was rebuffed. That was his whole goal - conquering Poland.

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            1 year ago

            Okay, so you aren’t aware of the USSRs attempts to create an alliance to stop nazi Germany, got it.

            That was his whole goal - conquering Poland.

            Do you get your political knowledge from the history Channel or from Prager U? Or a little bit of both?

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              1 year ago

              No, no, you’re totally right, I bet the guy who jointly invaded Poland with the Nazis as their military ally wanted to station Soviet imperial troops on the Western border of Poland out of charity and not his thirst for conquest