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          Marxist or comunist or socialist are not the same as tankies, tankies are the insane ones that defend the Chinese government of all places and ussrs genocides among others. The comunist just like the ideology, i concider myself a socialist and even communist ina good day and still like to bash tankies due to them spewing out bullshit and defending tyranic/fasist regimes.

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            No, tankie is ML, if you want to be very specific, MLs that like the USSR.

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              I dont think you understand what tankie means, if you call yourself a tankie you might want to stop.

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                Why on Earth would I call myself a tankie lmao? I’m not a fan of the USSR, I think they did some bad things, many involving tanks

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          I’ve been watching a series on the fundamentals of Marxism-Leninism, and see none of that in the theory.

          in the theory

          of course no one includes genocide in their theory but if you try to apply communist theory to reality you’ll end up with it. so instead of looking at theories start looking at reality

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            but if you try to apply communist theory to reality you’ll end up with genocide

            How? What do you know of the theory?

            If something is not part of communist theory, what sense does it make to call it a part of communism?

            And yes, genocidal ideologies do in fact have genocide in their theory. Just read anything written by Hitler or Mussolini.

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              every time it was tried communism failed eventually. it always caused oppression and in extreme cases even genocide. it doesn’t really matter what the theory looks like if that’s the reality

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                If your cake recipe asks for flour, sugar, milk and eggs, and you decide to use piss instead of milk, and shit instead of eggs, I’m not gonna buy it when people eat your cake and say cakes taste like shit and piss, though I will agree that your particular attempt did.

                You also cannot possibly deny the role the US has played in every “failed” socialist project.

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                Every time Apple tried to make the iPhone 32 it failed. It can never exist because there is no iPhone 32. History is over and humanity cannot progress. I am very smart.

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                They literally took the existing theory and re-wrote it into Marxism-Leninism and then a state applied the theory.

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      the holodomor for example

      >the numbers are wrong

      >actually the kulaks are responsible

      >the ussr is being depicted as bad by western propaganda but it wasn’t that bad

      >you’re all brainwashed

      they sound just like holocaust deniers