• Wanderer@lemm.ee
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    1 year ago

    How would that even work.

    It’s very very easy to do something like have a capitalist system where business and the rich are taxed. But you aren’t on about that.

    You could divide everything up today. But with change and new business ideas that system will never work. You think the people would want to invest in new automation, new ways of working, new industries. If it means growth and job losses? No never. Just look at the western car industry, or any big government owned industry. People don’t want change, even things like running a factory 24/7 instead of a nice 9-5 is difficult.

    Then Japan’s comes along and does all this new stuff and puts most of the western workforce out of business.

    • ThereRisesARedStar [she/her, they/them]@hexbear.net
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      1 year ago

      Under capitalism automation benefits the owners (on a small timescale, they worsen the totroptf) under socialism time saving just means the population has more time.

      That is why workers currently push against automation under capitalism.

      Not a market socialist though, just a socialist.

    • CriticalResist8 [he/him]@hexbear.net
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      Are people investing in new automation currently because I’ve been using the same crappy tools for over 10 years now and they keep getting crappier.

      Oh yeah we automate creative work now, the one thing that could still be a cheap hobby.

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      If worker-owned workplaces still operate within a market, there will still be pressure to compete with other companies. People can still come up with new ideas to compete and change can still happen.