Well a lot of the humour is really transphobic or sexist and I definitely remember at least one racist joke. There is definitely a lot of good jokes and it’s a funny show, but then something like that comes out of left field and it just kills the mood for me.
There are instances of some gay panic moments, especially in the earliest seasons when that was the norm for early 2000s western culture, but to suggest “a lot” of the humour is of this nature is just plain false.
The problem is when you take something out of its time and see every portrayed character as stereotype - you will kill all humor in the end. Imaginge some todays series in 10 years. There will always be some further developed people who adapted their own human being to whats morally acceptable in given time.
Ask people who are “affected” by the humor and if they are offended. Or make jokes about growing grass.
I watched it for the first time recently and it was good but… Nowhere near as amazing as the internet led me to believe it would be. JD and Elliot’s relationship in particular was infuriating and I hated any episodes that were about it. They turned each other into horrible people.
To me they felt more like the generic will-they-or-won’t-they pairing that a lot of sitcoms felt the need to include and constantly inject with drama, rather than an intentional exploration of a toxic relationship. I honestly preferred them a lot more as friends and felt like their characters had a lot more chemistry together when their relationship was platonic. I was hoping during the stretch of time when they finally broke up for real after being on and off again for a while, and JD didn’t have feelings for her anymore supposedly, that things would stay that way. But no, they get back together again eventually. Maybe I’m biased because I’m not generally interested in romance, but I didn’t mind the relationship between Dr. Cox and Jordan, or Turk and Carla. It was just JD and Elliot that I disliked. It was honestly my least favourite part of the show.
I’m in complete agreement, the relationship between JD and Elliot was awful. It felt like JD was in a permanent state of puppy love while ignoring a mountain of red flags. The writing always seemed to demand a winner for their disagreements too. There was never any compromise, just one of them deciding to take blame and say sorry while the other accepts the apology. Elliot always seemed to be the winner, even when she was objectively way in the wrong. The worst example I can think of is when
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Elliot cheated on her boyfriend with JD. I think she believed their relationship was over but it wasn’t? JD wants to tell so they will break up. Elliot doesn’t want him to so they can keep dating. They never bother to think about the boyfriend’s feelings. JD “does the nice thing” and doesn’t tell so Elliot can continue her relationship built on a lie. Whole episode felt sleazy.
Funny enough, Elliot sort of became a heel character for me, I enjoyed it when she got knocked down a peg. From what I understand she’s a lot of people’s least favorite.
I never fully understood the appeal, but i have some good memories watching it with a group. I rewatched some the other day and it was really gucking bad. I guess if you find bad slapstick funny or seeing people run in these fast forward sequences, then it’s pretty good.
Its one of those shows that’s better remembered than rewatched though
What has two thumbs and doesn’t give a crap what you think?
Lol, link gives an error right now but I have the image in my head so it’s okay :)
Not true at all. I’m rewatching now and it’s as good as ever!
Yeah, the best unique humour of any show (that I have seen), and it still works today.
This only happens if you slip into Season 9 in my mind.
Well a lot of the humour is really transphobic or sexist and I definitely remember at least one racist joke. There is definitely a lot of good jokes and it’s a funny show, but then something like that comes out of left field and it just kills the mood for me.
There are instances of some gay panic moments, especially in the earliest seasons when that was the norm for early 2000s western culture, but to suggest “a lot” of the humour is of this nature is just plain false.
Which is why I think it’s better remembered than rewatched.
I don’t think we watched the same show. No transphobic crap in that show, and the rest of it is JOKES, grow up.
The problem is when you take something out of its time and see every portrayed character as stereotype - you will kill all humor in the end. Imaginge some todays series in 10 years. There will always be some further developed people who adapted their own human being to whats morally acceptable in given time.
Ask people who are “affected” by the humor and if they are offended. Or make jokes about growing grass.
I rewatch it like every 2 years or so and it holds up and is really good.
It’s my ToP 3 show of all time with Community and IASIP.
What version? Because I’m worried on a rewatch that the problems with the soundtrack are gonna really detract from the experience.
THe high seas aren’t affected by the licensing squabbles of scrubs
I watched it for the first time recently and it was good but… Nowhere near as amazing as the internet led me to believe it would be. JD and Elliot’s relationship in particular was infuriating and I hated any episodes that were about it. They turned each other into horrible people.
Maybe that’s the message ? :)
To me they felt more like the generic will-they-or-won’t-they pairing that a lot of sitcoms felt the need to include and constantly inject with drama, rather than an intentional exploration of a toxic relationship. I honestly preferred them a lot more as friends and felt like their characters had a lot more chemistry together when their relationship was platonic. I was hoping during the stretch of time when they finally broke up for real after being on and off again for a while, and JD didn’t have feelings for her anymore supposedly, that things would stay that way. But no, they get back together again eventually. Maybe I’m biased because I’m not generally interested in romance, but I didn’t mind the relationship between Dr. Cox and Jordan, or Turk and Carla. It was just JD and Elliot that I disliked. It was honestly my least favourite part of the show.
I’m in complete agreement, the relationship between JD and Elliot was awful. It felt like JD was in a permanent state of puppy love while ignoring a mountain of red flags. The writing always seemed to demand a winner for their disagreements too. There was never any compromise, just one of them deciding to take blame and say sorry while the other accepts the apology. Elliot always seemed to be the winner, even when she was objectively way in the wrong. The worst example I can think of is when
spoiler
Elliot cheated on her boyfriend with JD. I think she believed their relationship was over but it wasn’t? JD wants to tell so they will break up. Elliot doesn’t want him to so they can keep dating. They never bother to think about the boyfriend’s feelings. JD “does the nice thing” and doesn’t tell so Elliot can continue her relationship built on a lie. Whole episode felt sleazy.
Funny enough, Elliot sort of became a heel character for me, I enjoyed it when she got knocked down a peg. From what I understand she’s a lot of people’s least favorite.
I never fully understood the appeal, but i have some good memories watching it with a group. I rewatched some the other day and it was really gucking bad. I guess if you find bad slapstick funny or seeing people run in these fast forward sequences, then it’s pretty good.