• tabular@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    What does South Africa get out of him visiting? Disregarding the idea of peace talks.

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      1 year ago

      North America and Europe stopped supporting African countries, they decided to turn to other rich countries instead.

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        1 year ago

        It’s more like we made promises we didn’t keep (like transferring financial aid, investments in infrastructure projects, etc) and instead Western countries still bleed part of Africa’s economy dry and I can understand that they’re fed up with it. I only hope that China and Russia won’t just be a wolf in sheep’s disguise, since they’re also imperialist and it’d be naive to expect them to help Africa become a strong contender to their economies.

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          1 year ago

          New boss, same as the old boss.

          African nations would be better off to continue pushing for an African Union and bring collective bargaining power when dealing with the new and old colonists.

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            1 year ago

            Well, there are plans to create a SWIFT alternative (?)/digital currency for African nations to trade between themselves. They’re not simply relying on BRICS, it would seem.

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      1 year ago

      They get money and Putin can pretent he still has influence around the world.

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        1 year ago

        It seems you’re not really familar with what’s happening in Africa right now and I can’t fault you for that because Western media has been terrible about reporting about what we’re doing to Africa. (Please excuse me if I’m completely off here, I can only go with what you provided thus far.)

        According to my research a lot of countries on the African continent are actively working towards dedollarization by building independent central bank transfer infrastructure to finally get rid of the shackles of Western neo-colonial soft power and China/Russia/BRICS are a god-sent for them.

        And thinking that Putin doesn’t have influence (and thus, he has to pretend otherwise) is kinda… ignorant?

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    1 year ago

    is it just me or is this a diplomatic way to tell Putin to just stay in Russia without telling him “you’re not invited any longer”? To me it sounds like “uuh… man… if you REALLY want to come you definitely won’t be arrested here. Not by me, I mean. Oh, I got pressures, POWERFUL pressures and you ending up arrested or worse isn’t off the table but hey… do come and visit anyway if you want. We’re cool right?”

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      1 year ago

      They pretty much begged him not to come before as they are obligated to arrest him themselves due to ICC arrest warrant.

      • zephyrvs@lemmy.ml
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        1 year ago

        Makes sense, though. Why escalate things unnecessarily if he can just attend remotely and have Lavrov take care of the backroom relationships?

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    1 year ago

    Declaration of war on Russia? And who would intervene across so many kilometers? The Russian Fleet? Wagner?

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      1 year ago

      As far as I know, the Kremlin stated that they never threatened South Africa with war in any way and they simply announced that Putin would participate remotely, so the question is moot.